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Model 37, silver plate, 112xxx 2. Model 37, silver plate, 196xxx 3. Model 37, silver plate, 449xxx 4. Model 37, lacquer, 636xxx 5. Model 37, silver plate, 644xxx I'm not sure why he had purchased so many of the same model. Perhaps this a warning flag? Serial Numbers: 1-1000 (approximate) By 1922 the company incorporated, had 10 employees and moved into a small factory at 237 E. 41st Street in New York. In 1924 Bach began producing cornets and trumpets under the Stradivarius by Vincent Bach Corporation name. Nov 08, 2010 Cascade, For better or worse, the Bach 37 has been the standard to which all others are compared for many years. Although a Yammie Zeno is a good horn and quite popular, and although the Bach 37 isn't my cup of tea (I play a 43 lightweight most of the time), a good Bach 37 is a great horn that will last you a lifetime. Bach Serial Numbers The most accurate Bach trumpet and cornet serial number list on the Internet! Find out how old your Bach is. If you have a shop card copy for your instrument and/or know its specific date of manufacture, please E-mail me with the information so I can update my list. The Evolution of the Bach Trumpet.
Here at Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Works we take great pride in our work. All of us can honestly say we believe NO ONE ELSE in the Pacific Northwest does better trumpet restorations then we do ! The Bach Stradivarius trumpets we restore will play, in most cases, better then brand new models! We install brand new mouthpipes, and cut them to theexact Bach Stradivarius standards. We make completely new slide tubes if the originals are sub-par. We also make new valve caps, stems, buttons, and finger hooks, again to exacting standards. All of this work is done by hand at our facilities. These instruments will not only look excellent, but will play wonderfully for years to come!
We also have an assortment of used and restored trumpet and cornet mouthpieces! We try our best to update the pages as often as we can but somethimes it is difficult to stay on top of it so feel free to ask, we might just have what you are looking for.
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Selmer Paris K-Modified, Model 23:
Serial Number 93XX, Built in the 1940s. Selmer gold lacquer finish A very popular instrument in the early Big Band days. A rare hand made model preferred by Louis Armstrong. A difficult model to find and a true classic. Real pretty intrument and a nice player. Original case included. Call for details$1485.00
Model 180S37 - Vincent Bach
Yamaha Trumpet Model YTR6310B:
Serial Number 0020XX, Older professional model, Lacquer finish is in good shape with some ware, scratches and very minor dents. Gold brass bell with reverse leadpipe. If and are on a tight budget and need a really good affordable instrument, here is an instrument that will fit the bill nicely. Nice factory case included.$925.00
Olds Mendez trumpet:
Serial Number 866XX, Built in late 1952. Bright silver plated factory finish. A rare example manufactured in the LA shop. seldom seen today. 1st and 3rd trigger mechanisms. Valves have good plating and very good compression. Original case included.$1450.00
Olds Mendez trumpet:
Serial Number 340XXX, Built at the Fullerton Calf shop in early1959. lacquered brass finish. 1st and 3rd trigger mechanisms. Valves have good plating and very good compression. Distressed finish but not a beat up instrument. A good solid playing professional trumpet. Original case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.$1150.00
Olds Recording cornet:
Serial Number 338XXX, Built at the Fullerton Calf shop in late 1958. lacquered finish. A very popular product from the Olds Band Instrument Co. This one has an original trigger mechanism that engages the master tuning slide as oppose to the 3rd slide that is more common. The mouthpipe has a little damage that will be corrected prior to sale. Valves have good plating and very good compression. Case not included.$1385.00
Olds Super cornet:
Serial Number 25XXX, Built at the LA Calf shop in the late 1940s. Original lacquered finish is about 85%. An excellent product from the Olds Band Instrument Co. This one has an original adjustable hook saddle for the 1st slide. Minor denting and abrasions. Valves have good plating and very good compression. Fully cleaned and serviced prior to sale. Case not included.$745.00
V. Bach Model 25 (Early Elkhart):
Serial No.98XXX, Early Elkhart model professional trumpet. Bright silver plate 100% with no dents. A classicic large bore professional hand made instrument. Schilke hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale. Call for details.
$2150.00
Index of. link octoplus crack tool without box. V. Bach Model 25:
Serial No.474XXX, Late model professional trumpet. Bright silver plate 100% with minior dents. A classicic large bore professional hand made instrument. Original Bach hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1950.00
V. Bach Model 37:
Serial No.322XXX, Professional med. large bore trumpet. Bright silver plated 100% with minimal ware. Minnor dents. A classicic professional hand made instrument. Original Bach hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1850.00
V. Bach Model 37 (Early Elkhart):
Serial No.61XXX, Early Elkhhart model, professional trumpet. Lacquered brass with nickel-silver . Though it show a bit of ware, its still a great horn with a lot of life in it. Minnor dents. A classicic professional hand made instrument. Original Bach hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1650.00
V. Bach Model 37:
Serial No.171XXX, Professional trumpet. Bright silver plated with minimal ware. Minnor dents. A classicic professional hand made instrument. Original Bach hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1650.00Sold
V. Bach Model 37:
Serial No.171XXX, Professional trumpet. Bright silver plated with minimal ware. Minnor dents. A classicic professional hand made instrument. Original Bach hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1650.00Sold
E-Benge Model 3 MLP:
Serial No.84XX, Fantastic jazz of 'comercial' trumpet. Built in late 1960 or there about, Bright silver plate with minimal ware. Minnor dents. A classic professional hand made instrument with plenty of sizzle. Original hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1525.00
Getzen Custom Series Cornet:
Serial No.GA429XX, Bright silver plated, like new condition. classic sheppards crook cornet. 1st and 3rd slide triggers Original hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$925.00
Martin Custom (RMC):
Serial No.217XXX, Gold brass bell, reverse lead-pipe, Nickel silver slide tubes and spring barrels. 1st slide saddle and 3rd slide-ring. Lacquer is in nice shape though it does have a few dents in the crook and bell stem that will soon be addressed. Original hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale.
$1150.00SOLD
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Bach TR-300:
Serial No.980XXX, Fantastic entry level trumpet. Made in the USA. Lacquer is in very nice shape. No dents. Original hard shell case included. Fully serviced prior to sale. 7c mpc included
$425.00
Getzen 300 series:
Serial No.980XXX, Fantastic entry level trumpet. Made in the USA. Lacquer is in very nice shape. Very minor dents. Original light weight case included. Fully serviced prior to sale. 7c mpc included
$400.00
Bach Model 37 Trumpet
F. Besson 'Prototype' Eb cornet:
Serial No.49XXX, Built in 1891/92, Bright silver plated though a little worn, has not been refinished but still a good looker. We have made the needed repairs and rebuilt its valves.These arwe difficult to come buy,so if you are looking for an affordable classic, here is you chance. Case not included.
$885.00
Getzen Eterna Piccolo Trumpet:
Serial No.P050XX, Bright silver platedFinish is in very nice condition, VERY minor dents (if any). Good looking and playing instrument at a great price.
Play nanny mania 3. $925.00SOLD
V. Bach TR-200:
Serial Number 433XXX, Bright silver plated. Excellent mid level instrument. Some minor dents and scratches. Comes with original Selmer hard shell case.$750.00SOLD
Selmer Paris K-Modified, Model 23A:
Serial Number 20XXX, Built in the 1950s. Original Lacquer 75% A very popular instrument in the early Big Band days. A rare hand made model preferred by Louis Armstrong. A difficult model to find let alone purchase. Valves have been restored in our shop by Daniel Oberloh. Original case included.$1750.00SOLD
$1485.00
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Industry | Musical instruments |
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Founded | 1918; 102 years ago |
Founder | Vinzenz Schrottenbach (a.k.a. Vincent Bach) |
Headquarters | , |
Number of locations | 1 |
Worldwide | |
Key people | Scott M. Gervais - General Manager |
Products | Trumpets, Cornets, Flugelhorns, Trombones, and Mouthpieces |
Services | Build to order |
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Parent | Conn-Selmer, a division of Steinway Musical Instruments |
Website | bachbrass.com |
The Vincent Bach Corporation is an USmanufacturer of brass instruments that began early in the early Twentieth Century and still exists as a subsidiary of Conn-Selmer, a division of Steinway Musical Instruments. The company was founded in 1918 by Austrian-born trumpeter Vinzenz Schrottenbach (Vincent Bach).
Vincent Bach[edit]
Vinzenz Schrottenbach (sometimes misspelled 'Vincenz Schrotenbach') was born in Baden near Vienna in 1890[1]. As a child he received training on violin, trumpet and bugle. By age 12 he had concentrated on the trumpet.[2] After he graduated from Maschinenbauschule (Mechanical Engineering School, Ansbach) with an engineering degree,[3] he entered into compulsory military service in the Imperial Navy, worked as an elevator operator, and then was re-conscripted during which time he served as a military musician in the Austrian Marine Band.
When he left the military the second time, Vincent decided to defy his family’s wishes and pursued a career as a solo cornetist touring Europe.[4] At the outbreak of World War I, he was in England and was forced to change his name and flee to the United States in order to escape detention as an enemy alien.[2] He resumed his career as a performer, interrupted by another term of compulsory military service, this time in the US military as a musician.[3][5]
While Bach was on tour in Pittsburgh in 1918, a repairman destroyed his mouthpiece, and Bach began experimenting with mouthpiece repair and fabrication.[2]
Vincent Bach Corporation[edit]
New York Period[edit]
First New York Period
- Time frame: 1918 - 1922
- Products: Mouthpieces
- Brand names: Vincent Bach
- Location: 11 East 14th Street, Selmer Music, New York, New York
- Set-up shop at: 204 East 85th Street, New York, New York[6]
- Serial Numbers: N/A
The Vincent Bach Corporation began when Vincent purchased a $300 foot-operated lathe and began producing mouthpieces in the back of the Selmer music store in New York. He established his shop across the street from the musicians' union. He ran an advertisement that read 'How to become a wizard on cornet without practicing' and accumulated $500 in orders in a short time and began his career as a manufacturer.[2]
Second New York Period
- Time frame: 1922 - 1928
- Products: Mouthpieces, Cornets, Trumpets
- Brand names: Stradivarius, Apollo, Mercury[6]
- Location: 237 E. 41st Street, New York, New York[6]
- Serial Numbers: 1-1000 (approximate)
By 1922 the company incorporated,[6] had 10 employees [2] and moved into a small factory at 237 E. 41st Street in New York.[6] In 1924 Bach began producing cornets and trumpets under the Stradivarius by Vincent Bach Corporation name.[2][7] In 1928, tenor and bass trombones were added to the product line as the company expanded and relocated.[2]
Vincent Bach trumpet mouthpiece
Third New York Period
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- Time frame: 1928–1953
- Products: Mouthpieces, Cornets, Trumpets, Flugelhorns, Trombones
- Brand names: Stradivarius, Apollo, Mercury,[7] Mercedes[6]
- Location: 621 East 216th Street, Bronx, New York[7]
- Serial numbers: 1000 – 12,599
In October 1928 the company opened a factory in The Bronx to produce cornets, trumpets and trombones (both tenor and bass).[2] Shortly after this move, Bach removed the “Faciebat Anno” marking from his bell engraving that had been in use since before the 100th horn, and began stamping the bells with “Model” followed by numbers for the bell mandrel and bore size. Some horns have 'New York 67' as the location on the bell and are sometimes mistaken for a '67' bell model, however 67 was the pre-zipcode postal code for the Bronx. This practice continued through most of this period. The bell mandrel number had previously appeared in Bach’s script “Vincent Bach Corporation” that has been an enduring marking on Bach horns.[7]
The company experienced stresses, but survived the depression and expanded again afterward. During the Second World War, Bach coped with a shortage of workers and materials and, while not converted to produce war materials as many competitors were, the company cut back on production. Throughout the early years, Bach resorted to mixing parts and modifying earlier horns returned to their ownership during this period to provide requested instruments to customers. Some horns built from extra parts or reconfigured bear an X on the serial number on the second valve casing, others had a digit added to the original serial number. In some cases, the same serial number exists on another horn.[8]
Mount Vernon Period[edit]
Vincent Bach Mount Vernon manufactured trumpet (#26XXX) in an Elkhart case circa late 60s
- Time frame: 1953–1964
- Products: Mouthpieces, Brass Instruments
- Brand names: Stradivarius, Mercury, Minerva, Mercedes[2]
- Location: 50 South MacQuesten Parkway, Mount Vernon, New York[6]
- Serial Numbers: 12,600 – 29,999
Over the years, the company produced several ranges of trumpets, cornets, flugelhorns and trombones, using the brand names Apollo, Minerva, Mercury, Mercedes and Stradivarius. The Vincent Bach Corporation moved in 1953 from New York City to Mount Vernon, New York. Mt. Vernon Bach horns are prized for being hand-assembled instruments.[3][4] Mt. Vernon horns can be identified by the Bach manufacturing stamp listing Mount Vernon NY on the second valve casing along with the bore letter code and serial number.[4] It is the instruments from this early Vincent Bach era that are still the sought-after trumpets with the new modern version being similar but not the same quality.
Elkhart Period[edit]
Bach logo on a 30,000-series Mellophonium.
- Time frame: 1965 – present
- Products: Mouthpieces, Brass Instruments
- Brand names: Stradivarius, Bundy(Selmer name no longer used), Bach
- Location: 600 Industrial Parkway, Elkhart, Indiana[6]
- Serial Numbers: 30,000 -
In 1961 Vincent Bach was 71 and the company was acquired that year by The Selmer Company, with Bach staying on as a consultant[9] and continuing to work until at least 1974.[10] Bach accepted the bid from Selmer even though some others of the 13 which he received were higher.[2] It is believed that Vincent Bach continued customizing a small number of horns at the old Mt. Vernon facility for special customers.[11]
The bulk of tooling, along with many parts and assembled horns, were relocated to a former Buescher plant on Main Street in Elkhart Indiana where production started in January of 1965. Less than a decade later, production moved again to a Conn factory belonging to the Selmer Company on Industrial Drive in Elkhart, alongside of which the Conn-Selmer corporate offices are located presently.[2][4] The Bach line of brass instruments continues to be made in Elkhart, Indiana, using the same blueprints and the same techniques as the originals. They are sold as a premium brand under the name “Bach Stradivarius” as well as the student line “Bach” horns, manufactured in Eastlake Ohio.[12]
Strike[edit]
On 1 April 2006, workers at the Bach plant in Elkhart began a strike that lasted three years.[13] The main issues were the union's desire to preserve employee compensation and company's goals to increase product quality. Production was interrupted until the company hired replacement workers, and roughly a third of the strikers returned to work.[14][15] The strike ended when workers voted to dissolve the relationship between the company and the United Auto Workers union.
References[edit]
- ^Tarr, E.H., 2003. East meets west: the Russian trumpet tradition from the time of Peter the Great to the October Revolution, with a lexicon of trumpeters active in Russia from the seventeenth century to the twentieth (No. 4). Pendragon Press.
- ^ abcdefghijkPriestley, Brian, Dave Gelly, Tony Bacon, The sax & brass book, MIller Freeman Books, San Francisco, CA, 1998, p. 1970
- ^ abcHistory of Bach StradivariusArchived 2009-11-30 at the Wayback Machine
- ^ abcdHempley, Roy & Lehrer, Doug, Play it again Mr. Bach, 2002, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=4 retrieved 5/31/2011
- ^Note: Bach served in the same field artillery regiment credited with bringing the 'Cassion Song' to John Philip Sousa in 1917. The result, 'The Caisson Song,' would become the official U.S. Armymarch, 'The Army Goes Rolling Along.' See http://skyways.lib.ks.us/orgs/mcb/Library/M0126.htmArchived 2007-02-11 at the Wayback Machine
- ^ abcdefghBachLoyalist.com Timeline of the Vincent Bach Corporation and Serial Number List at http://www.bachloyalist.com/serials/serial_trumpet.htm retrieved 6/2/2011
- ^ abcdHempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, New York Bach Stradivarius Trumpet and Cornet Bell Markings, 2004, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=1 retrieved 5/31/2011
- ^Hempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, Bach’s X Horns, 2001, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=2 retrieved 5/31/2011
- ^Dundas, Richard, 20th Century Brass Musical Instruments in the United States, p. 5
- ^Pavlakis, Christopher, The American music handbook, The Free Press, Calhun Publishing, 1974, p. 655
- ^Hempley, Roy and Lehrer, Doug, Bach’s Bugles, 2004, Bachology essay at http://www.bachbrass.com/bachology/article.php?uid=7 retrieved 5/31/2011
- ^Vincent Bach website http://www.bachbrass.com/ retrieved 5/28/2019
- ^Conroy, Tommy (5 August 2009). 'Conn-Selmer strike ends'. South Bend Tribune (Indiana). Retrieved 23 July 2010.
- ^Marilyn, Odendahl (05 August 2009). 'Three years later, the Vincent Bach strike -- and the union -- ends quietlyArchived 2011-07-18 at the Wayback Machine '. The Elkhart Truth
- ^Stuckey, Mike (12 April 2010). 'Little sympathy, but much at stake for strikers'. eTruth. Retrieved 25 May 2011.
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